Dagney, "City of Tranquil Lights", if you enjoy intense missionary stories of Asia, this book will make you cry!
Bubblegum Apotheosis
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Witnesses are told to "politely leave the territory"
by passwordprotected inanyone got any idea what's going on with the wtbts legal department these days?.
witnesses are now told to leave the territory if told by a law enforcement office to do so.. how does this square with harold king?.
and can someone remind me of the name of the woman (in china?
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Jehovah Witnesses Fragment Groups: "Why Are There So Many?"
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inlast night i went on a journey, it started with a "wiki" page about "splinter jw groups", from website to website, i learned about men and women, who were left out of the "proclaimers" book.
a field service flash back hit me:.
the territory we worked, was "seldom worked territory", and the adventure came freshly to mind, the first house we encountered a "russellite", strange, but (i thought they were all dead?
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
Last night I went on a journey, it started with a "Wiki" page about "Splinter JW Groups", from website to website, I learned about men and women, who were left out of the "Proclaimers" book. A Field Service flash back hit me:
The territory we worked, was "seldom worked territory", and the adventure came freshly to mind, the first house we encountered a "Russellite", strange, but (I thought they were all dead?) not too far out there?
Two hours later, a former believer in his late eighties spoke of the "True Slave, whose direction we were not obeying", who was he refering to, Rutherford. His opinion was brother R. was put into a rest-home, while Knorr took the reigns of the "Earthly Charriot" A qoute from Tony Willis "A People For His Name", "The Editorial Committee was dissolved in 1931, after which Rutherford wrote every leading article in The Watch Tower until his death."
One of the friends in our F-350 van, encountered one of the "Evil Slave" members, part of the group who shared sympathy with Ray Frantz, and left the Organization. How come I never asked why Ray Frantz left the Organization, he once loved and slaved for? Asking the "Who, What, Where, When, Why and How is going to cause more problems with Witnesses with internet access.
The Web allows us to research material our parents would have to go to great lenghts to gain access to. I never heard of the "Romanian Group" who broke away in 1990s, because of the "Superior Authorites". The "Dawn Group" (Assemblies in Motel 6 Conference Rooms to this day), nope! The Bible Study Students in England and Europe, (I heard of them) we are told they faded away, perhaps, but the damage is still out there.
The information available allow us to read what really took place, or at least form a opinion of our own. The wrestling of power, the "hard hand tactics" Rutherford's envoy Johnson, who took control of England's Bible students corperation, had fun with their money and power. The more I dig, the more my guts are rolling around, but it's liberating to find out the other side of issues, the "self appointed men" have tried to burry from our sights. Instead of talking at us, why don't the Faithful Slave from New York, meet with the Faithful Slaves from Europe, Asia, Austrialia and South America to establish dialogue? It's arrogant to think New York is more annointed than brethren who have been imprisoned for decades.
Why would Jesus Christ who said "everyone who followed him, would suffer tribulation" allow New York Annointed to be untested, unrefined from Satan's attacks?
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Better to reign in hell then serve in heaven
by usualusername inis there a tiny part of us who left the truth just because we were fed up of following rules?.
i know the truth/troof is not all it is cracked up to be but i have been a little bit of a rebel all my life and so rebelled.. .
did you leave partly to get more booze, sex, drugs and sex?
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
Drinking and prescription medicines are available to brothers and sisters who want to use them. Some of the biggest drunks I know, are those in positions of authority, men and women starting on their second 1/5th by 2 pm. Did anyone have a flask they took out in Field Service?
Our young ones, are being lead astray by morons who drink, spout off Bible verses to quelch their college desires or push marriage upon 18 year old boys and girls.
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JWs and medical marijuana
by dogon inwhere do jws stand on the new medical marijuana?
i know they would df for use of it for recreation but if a dr in california gave it as a perscript, and it was legal to buy and use for medical use, has anyone ran into this yet?.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
They have no business to say "Yes or No" to medical "Mary Jane"! My conscience bothered me none, discretly helping dyinging dubs, learn the correct way to treat their medicine plants. What do anti-marijuana groups think Oxycontin, Hydromorphon, Norco are made of? At least with
medical marijuana, the user is able to regain their appetite from the harsh chemotheraphy treatments. Opium based medications have negative side affects of constipation, harsh nausea (a No-No! with cancer patients) and are suspected in helping tumors grow faster, opium and certain cancers have a strange interaction which faciilate the invasion to conqueor the body faster.
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Witnesses are told to "politely leave the territory"
by passwordprotected inanyone got any idea what's going on with the wtbts legal department these days?.
witnesses are now told to leave the territory if told by a law enforcement office to do so.. how does this square with harold king?.
and can someone remind me of the name of the woman (in china?
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
@ designs can you share your story about being "chased out of the I.T. in Long Beach" The C.O. our way, got taken in for spraying a dog with "pepper spray", do the brothers at Bethel miss going "door to door", or figure it's the "papers" work?
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Examples of Fredrick Franz Horrible personality.
by Witness 007 inin he's nephews book i could not believe some of the things he mentions.
when his father died fred franz told his mother he could not go to the funeral because he was just too busy at bethel.
she spoke to rutherford who ordered him to go.
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@glander
It's a hand's down win, the strong educated young minds, would much rather dive into the teachings of the "New Atheist", like Sam Harris, late Hitchens and of course Richard Dawkins' They offer hope, joy, enlightment and inner peace to the depressed victims of "weak minded followers" of Jesus Christ. The hell with religious, weak minded men and women! Franz and Jesus Christ and their weak minded followers, should be pillaged for allowing themselves to be tricked, duped, hoodwinked............
If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion. - Sam Harris (THE NEW ATHEISTS - Researchers Crusade against American Fundamentalists, October 26, 2006)
There's nothing more natural than rape. Human beings rape, chimpanzees rape, orangutans rape, rape clearly is part of an evolutionary strategy to get your genes into the next generation if you're a male. You can't move from that Darwinian fact about us to defend rape as a good practice. I mean no-one would be tempted to do that; we have transcended that part of our evolutionary history in repudiating it. - Sam Harris (ABC Radio National-The Religion Report, "Science Fatwah? Part 2: Sam Harris," December 20, 2006)
@SicSemper It's probably not a good idea to speak of anything good Frantz may have done, since he was evil incarnate. Did you ever read about Dr. Walter Martin "Kingdom of the Cults" and his highly doubtful phD? The Mormon Church had a field day with this self-proclaimed Bible expert. The same items he attacked Fred Frantz on (education, scholar, polyglot), the Mormon church discovered were not so "doctorate worthy".
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Bible=Publications of the Faithful and Discreet Slave Class
by LostGeneration infrom the july 15th 2012 wt, page 26:.
ask himself, do i immediately apply.
everything i read in the bible and in the.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
Those are interesting points, was Pastor Russell looking for "annointed ones", why did the need emerge for a GB, why did Russell, Rutherford, Knorr not create this body of important (life saving message) men?
PHILLIPIANS 3 GWT
Run Straight Toward the Goal
1Now then, brothers and sisters, be joyful in the Lord. It's no trouble for me to write the same things to you, and it's for your safety.
2. Beware of dogs! (Men who burry you with their traditions, push their conscience on you!) Beware of those who do evil things. Beware of those who insist on circumcision.
3 We are the true circumcised people of God because we serve God's Spirit and take pride in Christ Jesus. We don't place any confidence in physical things.
4. Although I could have confidence in my physical qualifications. If anyone else thinks that he can trust in something physical, I can claim even more. (Who has done more physical things than St. Paul? The Aux Pioneer, Pioneer, Special Pioneer, Minsterial Servant, Elder, CO, DO, GB )
5.I was circumcised on the eighth day. I'm a descendant of Israel. I'm from the tribe of Benjamin. I'm a pure-blooded Hebrew. When it comes to living up to standards, I was a Pharisee.
6When it comes to being enthusiastic, I was a persecutor of the church. When it comes to winning God's approval by keeping Jewish laws, I was perfect.
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Psychiatric drugs to enhance conformity to religious norms, and conscientious objection
by whereami ini hope this doesn't give the wts any ideas!!!.
http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2012/04/psychiatric-drugs-to-enhance-conformity-to-religious-norms-and-conscientious-objection/ .
psychiatric drugs to enhance conformity to religious norms, and conscientious objectionpublished april 10, 2012 | by katrien devolder.
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Haredi Judaism http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/01/israel-s-ultra-orthodox-problem.html
"So how did the Haredim become Israel's latest demographic worry? The answer, in part at least, dates back to the foundation of the state, when David Ben-Gurion made sweeping concessions to rabbis in exchange for their political support. Among other things, he agreed to Army exemptions for 18-year-old Haredim who wished to continue studying at religious seminaries instead of being called to serve."
Religious Leaders support those who support them, "Vote To Play" game! the Jewish version of the "Moral Majority"
"The exemptions initially numbered in the hundreds but have now swelled, creating a backlog of secular resentment and setting Haredi men on a path that has proven hard to reroute: instead of employment, lifelong Torah study and support from the dole. According to recent labor surveys, some 65 percent of working-age men in the ultra-Orthodox community don't have jobs and don't want them, preferring to spend their days in the seminary. The cities they live in are some of the poorest in the cou Womanntry"
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
It happens on Circuit Assembly parts, "brother Anfre realize's he has a grudge against brother Denny ,after the life changing Part, he runs up with hugs and kisses, peace restored" Apologies are nice in theory, seldom practiced for fear of another unresolved issue rearing it's ugly head up.
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Why Expansion to Upstate - Here's the Answer
by seenitall inexpansion of wallkill to double in size - why?
warwick property?.
here is why it should be - jw retirement center for ministers of the full-time servant order.. there is such a lack of care for retired co, do, missionaries, special pioneers without real funds.. a real retirement center with care provided and hospital staff.. it will never happen, but if it did, what a change of heart by the gb for the beatup and thrown out full-timers who will never have to die in this old system!
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What kind of provisions are made for faithful missionaries, Bethelites,and Traveling Brothers who pursued "real treasure" in Heaven but are currently penniless on Earth? Who is responsible for their quality of life, are they "used and dumped" into the loving care of their "worldly family"? The modest penion they receive, will go far in Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Burma, Mexico, Panama if their health can hold.
Who is responsible for taking care of the elderly JWs, the ones who abandoned all other things but Kingdom Interest? The identifying mark of "love" is not suppose to fall short on those who served Jehovah, they should not be saying, "I have no delight". The WT, Awake, Platform preached this fate was for the ones who did not sacrifice their lives to God, again, not the ones who did! This game is well played, pretend you care about the elderly ones, but don't get to close to them, they might, could or will take time away from "Public Witnessing!"
Remember howcharity to involve yourself other than preaching, teaching or serving the high level ones, it waste precious time that could be spent preaching! Depressed sisters are not a good investment of time, they are a "sunk cost" and it's wasteful to pour your good solid resources (Time to find new younger ones) on these black holes of emotion and time. All efforts are the "slight of hands" trick, distract the eyes to avoid seeing members who are hurting in the group, by propping up the All Stars whose light will block the spiritually weak ones.